Sign spotting

Have a look at to the left of the locomotive cab in this photo:
The Daily Effort arrives photo PortRowan-AP-1.jpg
(If you click on the photo, it’ll take you to the story of the picture, where you can click for a larger image.)

I see a cross-shaped sign next to the track here. I wonder if that’s the yard-limit board for Port Rowan? From the Simcoe Sub Schedules, I know that Yard Limits started in Simcoe, almost 17 miles away, and continued to Port Rowan. Would a Yard Limit board be needed here to remind crews that they were still operating within such rules?

It’s not a speed limit sign. There’s a 5mph limit sign shown on the CNR track arrangement for Port Rowan, just to the left of the end of the team track:
 photo PortRowan-Plot-Web_zpsli8hidhh.jpg

Here’s a closer look – the cross-shaped sign is clearly shown on the map:
Port Rowan signs - station area photo PortRowan-Survey-West-Signboards_zpsf4a7bb8a.jpg

Anybody have ideas?

And while we’re at it – does anybody have a period photo of a CNR speed board they can share with me (and, I hope, this blog)? I’d like to model one – but need to know what it looks like, obviously. Thanks in advance!

19 thoughts on “Sign spotting

  1. Have no clue about the sign but could the twin extensions off the track between the turnout and station be for a handcar or speeder?

    Mike C.

    • A number of readers seem to think so, Mike.
      I’m going to look through my collection of CNR books to see if a similar sign shows up in any other photos. Maybe I’ll get lucky…
      Cheers!

  2. From what I can make out in the online photo, I’d venture that the sign is a CN standard “DO NOT TRESPASS” sign. The angled double line across the track indicates a culvert on CN property plans.

    A note about CN, property plans. Measurements are given in feet and tenths of feet, eg. “17.8” to the left of the culvert. And “893+41” next the station indicates chainage from a reference point for the subdivision, likely the headblock ties (the tips of the switch points) junction switch with the Cayuga Sub. 893+41=89,341′ from this reference point. 89,341’/5280’=16.92 miles.

  3. I had another look at the property plan. Under the diagonal lines across the track is the notation “C.I.P. culvert 1.5′ x 50′ ” I read this as cast iron pipe culvert, 18″ diameter by 50′ long. Alternatively, it could be a concrete pipe culvert, a more common item on CN.

  4. The twin lines look like a drain pipe or a small culvert. The wooden sign might be a station sign or an end-of-track warning sign perhaps.

    • Hi Bruce:
      Nope – no derail that I know of. There is a derail at the base of the elevated coal delivery spur. It’s clearly marked elsewhere on this plan.
      Good idea, though…
      Cheers!

      • The standard CN derail post of the time was a yellow painted 4″ x 4″ about five feet high, with the word “DERAIL” painted vertically on it thus–

        D
        E
        R
        A
        I
        L

  5. CN used an “END OF TRACK” sign on some spurs–I have a photo of one. It stood literally at the end of a track just beyond, but in line with, between the rails. Stop blocks or half-moon wheelstops were more commonly used to define end of track.

  6. Trevor, is it possible for you to put online an blowup of that part of the image containing the sign? It’s not very distinct in the photo.

  7. I have to agree with some of the other posters. CN used a similar sign in Picton, on the Engineer’s side, that read End of Track and then in how many feet below. I wish I had taken a picture back in the day, but I never did sadly.

    • That’s a common regret, Daniel. Too often when trackside we take photos of the big things and miss the little details. Back in the day, we were working with film and may have had a limited number of shots. With today’s digital cameras, of course, we don’t need to worry about that. Future model railway enthusiasts may be better off as a result.
      Cheers!

  8. Jarvis has a “Stop Sign” located on the Hagersville Sub. east of the junction with the Cayuga Sub. and since many of the photos of the Daily Effort show the locomotive stopped there perhaps that’s what it is. Speed Posts, Yard Limit, “Junction 1 Mile”, “Station 1 Mile”, etc. seem to be shown on the property plans with different symbols. Could be something as pedestrian (no pun intended) as a “No Trespassing”.

  9. Trevor,

    Wild guess, but I think it may be the sign that “announces” the end of the Port Rowan subdivision. The rest of the “track” to the obvious end of track would probably be considered industrial trackage. Unfortunately, I do not see a distance mark on your blown up track diagram that you would expect to see.

    Matt

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